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#1 HRH

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:11 PM

"We want information...information...information!"
"Who are you?"
"The new number two."
"Who is number one?"
"You are number six."
"I am not a number, I am a free man."
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So I searched and searched, but couldn't find a concrete thread devoted to weight. Apparently some of our members are a little conscious of their size? :D Okay, not actually. I thought we should make a thread of 510 weights, paying careful attention to what's been added or removed from the vehicle. That way we can refer back to this thread for that information when we're curious just how much the 510 actually weighs with a VG swap, or 280ZX brakes, etc.

Weigh your rig at a certified scale! The dump works for me; they'll let you roll on, get a weight, then go on your merry way without charging you. And their scales are usually accurate to within 20 pounds.

For instance, my 510 weighed 2130 pounds with a half tank of gas back when it still had the leaky original L16, and stock everything else.

I tried to get it weighed today but the dump was closed, but I suspect it will be heavier now with upgraded brakes and bigger motor/carb assembly, but I'm not sure.

So to clarify:

Stock 1971 510 four door.
L16, 4 speed, stock everything (brakes,diff,trans).
Half tank of gas.
Full size spare tire in trunk well.

Weight: 2130 lbs.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:30 PM

"We want information...information...information!"
"Who are you?"
"The new number two."
"Who is number one?"
"You are number six."
"I am not a number, I am a free man."
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 10:30 PM

You know what's funny, I have never actually seen the movie, though I've wanted to.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 12:35 PM

Not much of a big need for a weight chart, as I would tend to think everyone out there is going to do the upgrades they want regardless of the weight penalty. 99% of all 510's fall between 1900 and 2200 lbs. I think the VG30DETT 510 comes in at close to 2400. People out there, including myself, have weight charts of engines, transmissions, and diffs..........but nobody ever uses the information we already have. Seems the only ones truly concerned about the weight are the actual race cars.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 03:05 PM

I only remember the TV show, didn't even know they have a movie in the works.
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 03:28 PM

I only remember the TV show, didn't even know they have a movie in the works.


Well, shows how not old I am, I thought it was a movie, didn't realize it was a series.

As for the weight, they may not be a need for it, but it sure would be handy, I think. Accurate is as accurate does! Plus, it's a lot easier when someone asks "How heavy will a VG swap make my 510?" Then we can refer them to this handy dandy weight thread.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 03:32 PM

im on the way to the shop we got a set of scales there.. if I get a few min ill throw the 510 on em and post up results.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 04:39 PM

Total weight gain on a VG30 swap is less than a hundred pounds. I believe the VG30E is only some 60 pounds heavier than the L engines. Figure probably isn't exact, but the swap adds very little weight.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:14 PM

See, that's my point though. Everyone always says that, but there's no actual weight to back it up. Now if we had a thread identifying VG30DE, DETT, regular E, 5 speed, 4 speed, truck variant, disc brakes, zx hubs, 240 struts, power boosters, skid plates, rack and pinion vs. gearbox, etc., we could all be a little more educated and have some concrete weights down.

Regardless, the thread is started, so let's fill it up, huh? :) I'll probably weigh the 510 later this week. It should be heavier than before I think.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:25 PM

i'm interested to see what my 510 wagon sr swap weighs.

full interior
stock diff
5spd
280zx brakes
1972 datsun 510 goon : sr20det

1983 datsun maxima : rb20det

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:42 AM

Total weight gain on a VG30 swap is less than a hundred pounds. I believe the VG30E is only some 60 pounds heavier than the L engines. Figure probably isn't exact, but the swap adds very little weight.


According to the DQ article on engine swaps, they VG30 engine swap adds 125 pounds. I am sure it is more then that when you add in the additional items needed to complete the swap. Figuring a 510 starts at 2100 pounds I am thinking my VG33 swap will come in at a hefty 2400 pounds. But with ZX brakes, coilovers, rear discs, larger exhaust, sound deadening materials, recaro seats, a stereo system larger wheels and tires, etc. It is to be expected.

Also, I've determined, I'm not a hoarder, I'm a collector.
As I'm sure a lot of the old school datsun guys are.



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Posted 22 February 2010 - 10:20 AM

"Down by law, I've got this nasty habit
When I need something I reach out and grab it
Once upon a time I had a name and a way
But to you I'm nothing but a number
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You know what's funny, I have never actually seen the movie, though I've wanted to.

:huh: im not laughing!

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I'll put on chain mail and a dirt bike tire jock strap and drive it!!!!!


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:58 PM

A guy walks into a bar and says "Ow!" How about that? Laughing now? :D

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:29 PM

According to the DQ article on engine swaps, they VG30 engine swap adds 125 pounds. I am sure it is more then that when you add in the additional items needed to complete the swap. Figuring a 510 starts at 2100 pounds I am thinking my VG33 swap will come in at a hefty 2400 pounds. But with ZX brakes, coilovers, rear discs, larger exhaust, sound deadening materials, recaro seats, a stereo system larger wheels and tires, etc. It is to be expected.



I read the DQ issue again and the VG does add 125 plus another 40 pounds for the VG 5 speed trans. So a VG swap adds around 165 pounds.

Also, I've determined, I'm not a hoarder, I'm a collector.
As I'm sure a lot of the old school datsun guys are.



Enjoy the Ride!


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 08:39 PM

Laughing now? :D

actually... yes i am! :rofl:
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 10:16 PM

Here is where my dime weighed in at ... minus the front hood .. which wasnt on the car .. 2115 lbs ... as soon as we get the final touches on the wiring done we are going to corner weight it with me sitting in the car....


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Posted 06 March 2010 - 11:21 PM

Sweet! That's the kind of info we need. What upgrades have you done? Motor/brakes/skidplates/rollbar/etc.? Maybe if I get my alternator swapped out tomorrow, I'll take the 510 up to the dump to weigh her. I don't have the cool corner weight scales.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 10:25 PM

1972 510 four door.
ka24de/ 5 speed/ welded diff/ coils
almost full tank of gas.
no spare

2160 lbs

im pretty satisfied my friend has a 2 door all stock with spare in trunk weighed in about 40 less then me
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 10:53 PM

I took my 68 2 door over the truck scale and paid 8 bucks to find out it weighted 2160 with almost a full tank and a small parts supply in the trunk :)
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 08:55 AM

Just got back from the dump. Current specs on the 510 are:

L20B with 5/speed goofy shift.
280zx brakes/rotors/struts with coilovers in front.
200sx rear rotors with Maxima calipers in rear.
Subi LSD
Trunk completely empty, no spare, no jack, nothing. (Just after autocross)
Interior empty except for two little plastic speaker boxes ~5 pounds and two magnetic racing numbers.
Tires are studless snow tires on 14x5.5 Western Wheel turbines.
Half tank of gas.

Weight = 2140 lbs.