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Posted 29 December 2009 - 07:55 PM

nice work mike im glad you finaly looked in the trunk! in my opinion you need to remove the bumpers, find some oldschool rims and put this bad boy in the weeds! oh and when i was in port i hooked up with lou and met his family and saw his mint 510! and also he gave me a christmas preasent! i would upload pix but photobucket is not working with me right now? anyway he gave me 4 bluebird 510 hot wheels (3 black and one orange!) and a muscle machines blubird sss! lou is my new best friend! thanx lou!



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Posted 29 December 2009 - 07:57 PM

What a guy!!! I missed him by 10 seconds one day. I was in the back of the house and by the time I went out front he had left me something. I ran out on the street and waved but he was up at the lights and didn't see me. :mad:

But I got this>>>

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How friggin' cool is that?


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Glad you liked it mike :cool:

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 08:42 PM

lou is the shit!

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:44 PM

Easier too. The Maxima was built on the 280zx platform and although the vented rotors and calipers aren't an exact match they are very similar in size. The boots are still un-torn in these 710 struts too. Isn't there a way to replace the shock oil? The Maxima springs would be stiffer too?


If the Maxima strut has the original OE oil damper still in it, it's an easy re furbishment Mike. Take the top hat off and then remove the strut nut. Have a look down the tube, if there is an "O" ring around the top of the assembly, then it's probably the OE damper. To remove it, get a small, fine dental pick and gently remove the "O" ring, if you don't puncture or tear it in removal, you can re use it. Get a big basin of some sort and gently remove the damper assembly, don't let any of the valve parts fall off the bottom or you're gonna have to figure out the order and orientation of re assembly, not fun, I had to figure one out before. Place the damper assembly into the basin and let stand and drain of all old oil. Pour the rest of the oil in the strut tube out and you can spray it with a little brake clean and wipe out any gunk on the bottom of need be. Refill with your choice of Motorcycle fork oil (for it's anti foaming agents) I used 20W on my Nissan Euro springs and 30W on my Specialty "autocross" springs. I don't know the refill capacity of the OE Maxima assembly, you're gonna have to look that one up, I do have the 510 ones around though. Be careful not to overfill! Reassemble and you're good to go. Total cost is about $18 for the fork oil! Yeah, Ratsun!

With the brakes, I'd imagine that the real problem would be the calipers, not the rotors! You might have to make up a new mount for the Maxima stuff.
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 10:34 AM

To do this the springs would need to be compressed and removed right??? Thicker oil = more damping?
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 12:40 PM

Yup have to take the springs out Mike,And yup the damper
While your at it cut the springs too :hyper:

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 03:28 PM

Yup have to take the springs out Mike,And yup the damper
While your at it cut the springs too :hyper:


Yep, remove springs first, (I forgot that step :blink: ) and do the rest. The thicker oil helps with the damping, however, with the Specialty autocross springs the damping ceases to be adequate at speeds greater than 85-90mph, don't ask how I know :lol: ! As Lou says, you can cut the springs, however, I'd rather lower the spring perch by making it adjustable height with a muffler clamp.
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 01:12 PM

What was changed?

My '74 710
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A neighbors '76 710 goon.
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Why were camber plates added? Was the strut changed for a newer larger style? One thing is for sure a totally different front coil was used for the '76 year than all previous years. It even says in the listing "for camber adjustment" , so is it smaller diameter so it can move around in the strut tower. Anyone Know???
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 03:54 PM

What was changed?

My '74 710
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A neighbors '76 710 goon.
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Why were camber plates added? Was the strut changed for a newer larger style? One thing is for sure a totally different front coil was used for the '76 year than all previous years. It even says in the listing "for camber adjustment" , so is it smaller diameter so it can move around in the strut tower. Anyone Know???


Mike, I don't think the camber plates are a factory item. If I remember this correctly, Datsun had a problem with camber on the 710 and did a tophat with offset for refitting to the strut. I read that somewhere, but, darned if I know where ....
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 07:03 PM

The camber plates are moog old school ones from late 70s to early 80s,
The top hat was offset on the 710 for the camber issue,
Alot 510 guys used 710 upper hats on lowered 510s gave "some" camber correction.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 04:51 PM

Jason, Lou thanks for that, I was worried that the strut was changed somewhen after '74. Weather is supposed to clear up mid week so I'll try to remove the stock one and compare my Maxima strut to it.

Jason I'll try to get those 200sx axles this week. The part numbers (axle) don't match but the bracket should work.

Thanks again,

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 06:16 PM

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mike its scary how much the 610 is similar to the 710 the firewalls look the same the windshild washer nozzles the wiper motor where the ac lines exit into the engine compartment even where all the relays bolt in its all identical

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 06:17 PM

No worries, Mike, I have extra on my plate and not enough time to deal with it! The brake stuff is yours if you need them!

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 08:47 AM

mike its scary how much the 610 is similar to the 710 the firewalls look the same the windshild washer nozzles the wiper motor where the ac lines exit into the engine compartment even where all the relays bolt in its all identical


Sisters. The 610 and 710 were made during a time when Nissan was in its heyday of making parts that cross over many models. Why make three different harnesses for three different cars? One was good enough to do all three. Heck, they use the same L-Series powerplant starting in 1975, and they were offset for '73 and '74 ('73 610 had the L18 and th '74 710 had the L18, but only those years for those models) Really, the only major difference between the 610 and the 710 is IRS in the 610 and Live Axle in the 710.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 05:24 PM

Sisters. The 610 and 710 were made during a time when Nissan was in its heyday of making parts that cross over many models. Why make three different harnesses for three different cars? One was good enough to do all three. Heck, they use the same L-Series powerplant starting in 1975, and they were offset for '73 and '74 ('73 610 had the L18 and th '74 710 had the L18, but only those years for those models) Really, the only major difference between the 610 and the 710 is IRS in the 610 and Live Axle in the 710.


So will the 610/710 take a later 280zx strut? Or does it need to. Will 280sx calipers bolt to the stock 610/710 strut????
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:40 PM

As far as I know Mike, the 280ZX strut should work on the 710 also. However, I don't know what the camber/caster issues are going to be like.
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:51 PM

As far as I know Mike, the 280ZX strut should work on the 710 also. However, I don't know what the camber/caster issues are going to be like.


Well.... We'll find out then for all the future generations. :D
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:52 PM

As far as I know Mike, the 280ZX strut should work on the 710 also. However, I don't know what the camber/caster issues are going to be like.

Much like the 510 and 610, the 280ZX strut swap will work in the 710. Bear in mind that the same modification will be required: The spring perch from the 710 strut will have to be welded on to the 280zx strut or swap it all out for coilovers as the spring diameter is too large. It will rub the inside of the strut housing of the car.
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I saw three of these parked outside the local Starbucks this morning, which tells me only one thing. There's too many self indulgent wieners in this city with too much bloody money. Now, if I was driving a 1973 610 four-door...
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:57 PM

Good stuff!
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Posted 05 January 2010 - 08:47 AM

Mike there is a set of coilovers(not datsun but if the od is the same)for cheap not too far from you
http://comoxvalley.e...1535704418.html