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#1 thisisastickup

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:25 PM

So I have a lead on a motor, trans, ECU, and wiring harness for my swap.

What all will I need? and What modifications will I need to do to my car to make the swap work?

I have this list:

-Engine
-Tranny
-NA ECU
-Wiring Harness
-what else should I add here?

I know Experimental Engineering makes a swap kit, what all from their site do I need?

Thanks for all the help.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:41 PM

follow this link it will be your best friend
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:53 PM

Yeah, I've seen that, I should have mentioned that.

I'm wondering if I need to shorten my driveshaft or other shit like that to do the swap.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:59 PM

the driveline will probibly need to have the spline end changed to match the vg trans and yes it will probibly need to be shortened

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:59 PM

The DL splines will be fine unless your using a Z32 trans then it will need the z32 DL end... The Z31 nissan trans. I've never checked the Borg Warner trans. Someone needs to do an awesome writeup for every common engine swap!
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 03:16 PM

The BW trans has a different spline altogether. You will have to shorten your normal driveshaft to use with the swap. Make your mounts first and get the position right, then measure for the driveshaft.

Go to some shows and take some detailed pics of VG swaps, they will answer a ton of questions for you, and be usefull as your swap progresses.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 05:04 PM

Unfortunately, I don't know of any vg30 swapped dimes in my area. In fact, the only 510 I've ever seen in person is my own. I'll be getting the BW T5 tranny, can a driveline shop match the splines for me?

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 06:23 PM

I doubt it, the BW splines are different than everything else on the planet. Get a driveshaft out of a BW equipped car. Almost nobody runs the BW box with a VG30 though, I don't on mine. If I was you I'd just run a standard box unless you already have the BW unit.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 07:34 PM

If you need pics I can snap some for you. I have team thump kit.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 06:51 AM

I would not use the T-5 at all! It is too damn big and will require lots more work to get it in. Trust me, it is not worth it. A friend of mine had one in his conversion and did not like it at all!

From what I know so far, since I have not started bolting stuff up yet, the Z-31 spline should work with the 510 shaft but it will have to be shortened.

I believe there is a size specified for the driveshaft on VG30.com but it would be best to just measure it yourself and have it cut to your specs.

BTW, I have some 200SX exhaust manifolds if you are looking for some.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 12:38 PM

If you need pics I can snap some for you. I have team thump kit.


That'd be awesome. I was actually hoping you'd chime in. Can I still get the team thump kit?

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 09:23 PM

Not sure, drop Jeff a line @ jeff@teamthump.com. The main differences in the vg30.com kit and team thumps would be the engine mounts. Team thump uses the factory VG isolators. I think both are great kits. Im not an engineer so I cant tell you if the VG isolators are big improvement over the vg30.com setup. I can tell you that Ive never had any odd drivetrain noises and I have absolutely no vibration at idle. The kit has been in the 510 since 2003.

The only concern with the team thump kit is the lack of headers as an option. From what Ive read and pictures that Carter from vg30.com has sent me the vg30.com headers will fit the team thump kit without modification.

What pics would you like (firewall clearance, engine mounts, engine height, etc)?

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 10:10 AM

The DL splines will be fine unless your using a Z32 trans then it will need the z32 DL end... The Z31 nissan trans. I've never checked the Borg Warner trans. Someone needs to do an awesome writeup for every common engine swap!


I always thought the nissan vg30 trans was the same as a KA trans but Shawn has the nissan vg turbo trans and he said the splines were different than the 510 DL ones... Maybe the non turbo trans have the same DL spline size and count.....
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Posted 02 October 2009 - 12:21 PM

Not sure, drop Jeff a line @ jeff@teamthump.com. The main differences in the vg30.com kit and team thumps would be the engine mounts. Team thump uses the factory VG isolators. I think both are great kits. Im not an engineer so I cant tell you if the VG isolators are big improvement over the vg30.com setup. I can tell you that Ive never had any odd drivetrain noises and I have absolutely no vibration at idle. The kit has been in the 510 since 2003.

The only concern with the team thump kit is the lack of headers as an option. From what Ive read and pictures that Carter from vg30.com has sent me the vg30.com headers will fit the team thump kit without modification.

What pics would you like (firewall clearance, engine mounts, engine height, etc)?

-Colton


I don't really know what I want pictures of. I guess I'll be asking more questions when I start doing the swap, so I'll probably ask you.

Is the wiring hard to do, and are there any writeups on it anywhere?

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 03:06 PM

I run a stand alone (tec3). I would get a manual and wiring a schematic.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 06:29 PM

If your using a stock efi setup the wiring is cake, there's only about 5 wires to connect between the VG30 efi harness and the 510 harness. But ask again later when you are to that point and someone can help you with it.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 11:27 PM

If your using a stock efi setup the wiring is cake, there's only about 5 wires to connect between the VG30 efi harness and the 510 harness. But ask again later when you are to that point and someone can help you with it.


sweet, yeah I'll be keeping the motor bone stock for now.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 03:20 PM

I bought a 2 door from Jeff that he had his Team thump (of course!) VG30 engine swap mounts and pan. I now have a wagon that has the VG30.com motor mounts and I cannot tell the difference. I also installed the VG30.com headers and that is the route to go or you will have to find 200 SX manifolds to be able to get the starter out and etc.
Since my wagon engine has Isky cams, polished and ported heads, the headers just compimented the the above and puts out way more power than stock.
I'd go VG30.com for ease of getting the mounts and the fact that you can always swap to SR20 or back to the 1600 engine.
What ECU and wiring harness will you be running?
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 03:54 PM

All stock for now. I can get an NA ecu and wiring harness. I'm going budget for now, I'm a broke highschool kid right now. I just want the car to run good and smooth, I'm not worried about performance although it should be plenty fast.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 01:34 PM

K, new question. Will my scirocco radiator work for the swap?

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